whatever you choose. In this scenario there is a minimum of 1 other person as otherwise there is only you and you can't set yourself free of you.
Multiples* may be an exception but even so there is a difficulty of individuals choosing to leave the collective, the collective having a finite physical presence.
As for the singular - I know too much about poly types of varying structures so state it has to be 1-1 relationship.
I did specify long-term and commitment as if you arnt' committed then there is no 'issue' about setting the other(s) free, and long term as the statement seems to suppose that it is some sort of more intense involvement than a weekend love affair - OK, someone might feel intensely involved during a 1 night stand but the quote doesn't quite work on that level.
For me, the word commitment is wrong. It does not fit with me. Commitment sounds like a contract, a business transaction, something that can be broken, something that is somehow forced. I percieve love as beyond this, as more, greater. Love does not make demands, for it is not a choice. Love is to be free. Freedom without isolation, without desolation.
I once thought this was simply me being fantastical. But the more I learn of love, the more this is how love seems to be.
Summed up, rather nicely I find, herein, by Alanis...
I'll give you countless amounts of outright acceptance if you want it. I will give you encouragment to choose the path you want if you need it. You can speak of anger and doubts, your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it. You can share your so-called "shamefilled" accounts of times in your life and I won't judge it. And there are no strings attached to it.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give. You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have. I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege, and you owe me nothing in return.
You can ask for space for yourself and only yourself and I'll grant it. You can ask for freedom as well or time to travel and you'll have it. You can ask to live by yourself or love someone else and I'll support it. You can ask for anything you want, anything at all and I'll understand it. And there are no strings attached to it.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give. You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have. I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege, and you owe me nothing in return.
I bet you're wondering when the next payback shoe will eventually drop. I bet you're wondering when my conditional police will force you to cough up. I bet you're wondering how far you have now danced your way back into debt. This is the only kind of love, as I understand it, that there really is.
You can express your deepest of truths, even if it means I'll lose you and I'll hear it. You can fall into the abyss on your way to your bliss, I'll empathize with. You can say that you'll have to skip town to chase your passion and I'll hear it. You can even hit rock bottom, have a mid-life crisis and I'll hold it. And there are no strings attached.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give. You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have. I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege, and you owe me nothing in return.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give. You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have. I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege, and you owe me nothing in return.
I'll give you countless amounts of outright acceptance if you want it. I will give you encouragment to choose the path you want if you need it. You can speak of anger and doubts, your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it. You can share your so-called "shamefilled" accounts of times in your life and I won't judge it. And there are no strings attached to it.
This to me is a commitment :) It says that I will be there for you. That I will not simply walk away, or ignore you, That you mean something to me above and beyond 'yeah, whatever'.
Not a committment as in Marriage or any form of 'legality' or anything that I demand of you but something that I give to you and that is mine to honour, and hence to set free.
To me the quote is:
You are important to me, I love you and want you but will not cage you. You are free. I shall be here for you if you return, and if you do not return I shall continue to love you and love that you are free and happy without me.
That statement to me is a commitment - it is not a bargin to be kept, a piece of paper to matter, but something to honour.
As the loved one is free, so is the one who loves. Love will set you free! And that is The Truth. I do rather worship Love. Committed to freedom, to choice, to being there because one wants to be. Yes. There is a great power in that. Love. To which I am a canine compaion. X
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Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 01:57 pm (UTC)However if you let them go and they still eat your food, mess your house, nag and get underfoot then,
you either married* them
or gave birth to them!
*Insert 'long-term committment' of choice here
Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 02:09 pm (UTC)La!
Singular?
;)
Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 02:22 pm (UTC)Multiples* may be an exception but even so there is a difficulty of individuals choosing to leave the collective, the collective having a finite physical presence.
As for the singular - I know too much about poly types of varying structures so state it has to be 1-1 relationship.
I did specify long-term and commitment as if you arnt' committed then there is no 'issue' about setting the other(s) free, and long term as the statement seems to suppose that it is some sort of more intense involvement than a weekend love affair - OK, someone might feel intensely involved during a 1 night stand but the quote doesn't quite work on that level.
*Multiple = 1 body, multiple identities/personalities.
Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 02:34 pm (UTC)For me, the word commitment is wrong.
It does not fit with me. Commitment sounds like a contract, a business transaction, something that can be broken, something that is somehow forced.
I percieve love as beyond this, as more, greater.
Love does not make demands, for it is not a choice. Love is to be free. Freedom without isolation, without desolation.
I once thought this was simply me being fantastical. But the more I learn of love, the more this is how love seems to be.
Summed up, rather nicely I find, herein, by Alanis...
I'll give you countless amounts of outright acceptance if you want it.
I will give you encouragment to choose the path you want if you need it.
You can speak of anger and doubts, your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it.
You can share your so-called "shamefilled" accounts of times in your life and I
won't judge it.
And there are no strings attached to it.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
and you owe me nothing in return.
You can ask for space for yourself and only yourself and I'll grant it.
You can ask for freedom as well or time to travel and you'll have it.
You can ask to live by yourself or love someone else and I'll support it.
You can ask for anything you want, anything at all and I'll understand it.
And there are no strings attached to it.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
and you owe me nothing in return.
I bet you're wondering when the next payback shoe will eventually drop.
I bet you're wondering when my conditional police will force you to cough up.
I bet you're wondering how far you have now danced your way back into debt.
This is the only kind of love, as I understand it, that there really is.
You can express your deepest of truths, even if it means I'll lose you and I'll
hear it.
You can fall into the abyss on your way to your bliss, I'll empathize with.
You can say that you'll have to skip town to chase your passion and I'll hear
it.
You can even hit rock bottom, have a mid-life crisis and I'll hold it.
And there are no strings attached.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
and you owe me nothing in return.
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
and you owe me nothing in return.
Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 02:44 pm (UTC)I'll give you countless amounts of outright acceptance if you want it.
I will give you encouragment to choose the path you want if you need it.
You can speak of anger and doubts, your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it.
You can share your so-called "shamefilled" accounts of times in your life and I
won't judge it.
And there are no strings attached to it.
This to me is a commitment :) It says that I will be there for you. That I will not simply walk away, or ignore you, That you mean something to me above and beyond 'yeah, whatever'.
Not a committment as in Marriage or any form of 'legality' or anything that I demand of you but something that I give to you and that is mine to honour, and hence to set free.
To me the quote is:
You are important to me, I love you and want you but will not cage you. You are free. I shall be here for you if you return, and if you do not return I shall continue to love you and love that you are free and happy without me.
That statement to me is a commitment - it is not a bargin to be kept, a piece of paper to matter, but something to honour.
Re: However ...
Date: 2004-02-19 02:51 pm (UTC)Love will set you free! And that is The Truth.
I do rather worship Love.
Committed to freedom, to choice, to being there because one wants to be. Yes. There is a great power in that.
Love.
To which I am a canine compaion.
X